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 Post subject: Re: Trump.
 Post Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:28 pm 
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Do rich people ever get jail time for lying about property valuations? This sounds like the type of white collar crime that usually gets plea bargained down to a fine. Not that I won't be glad to see Trump's assets seized, but have they got any more serious things on him?

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I wouldn't put anything past Mitch. But I just don't see the rank & file summoning the level of unreasonable hatred for Biden that they had for Obama. You don't understand how everything in America goes back to race.

This is the party that impeached Bill Clinton for lying about an affair. Biden's a Democrat. That's enough. Kamala Harris will do as a punching bag.

Plus the far right is having a serious break with reality, and there's always someone willing to peddle them conspiracy theories. As much as I would like to see them left in the cold, I think Mitch is more likely to pander to them while trying to convince the few moderates to ignore the crazy and that it's still safe to come along for the tax cuts and Jesus.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump.
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:30 pm 
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The same thing regarding plea bargains could be said of Federal tax evasion: but do recall what happened to Al Capone. Plea bargaining is at the discretion of the prosecutor; if they decide to throw the book at someone then they've got no recourse. And Trump has pretty much ensured that even if the New York prosecutors didn't want to throw the book at him earlier, they do now.

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Good luck to New York's prosecutors then. Let's hope they're neither bribable nor blackmailable, and that they don't get complacent just because Trump's out of office. I hope they have dug up a lot of dirt on him, and that it's egregious enough that even other rich guys are like "Yeah, Trump pushed his luck too far".

I fully expect Trump to pardon himself and his family for all federal crimes before leaving office, and should he somehow neglect to do so, I have little confidence in a weak Biden administration in bringing charges, especially before the midterm elections.

I'm more interested in nailing people like Bill Barr to the wall, though. Without them, Trump was just a foolish rage Tweeter, and they shouldn't be allowed to just waltz into third or fourth careers as TV pundits or political consultants who still get taken seriously.

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I think the fact that people like Susan Collins held on to their seats and the Republican gained in the House has reassured McConnell that pandering to the base while moderates make occasional meaningless noises of concern is still a good strategy. All Republicans need is a slightly less personally obnoxious presidential candidate. They don't need to change anything else.

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 Post Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:44 pm 
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For what it's worth, the New York DA that's going to be prosecuting Trump is one Cyrus Vance. He doesn't, and doesn't need to, give a damn about Trump or his party; and no one is hinting he needs money.

As for Moscow Mitch; could well be, though that might be modified slightly depending on the results in Georgia. Though if we see a split decision there, and given the passage of ranked choice voting in Alaska, Senator Murkowski might just become rather more powerful than she would have thought possible.

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Apparently the folks who bribe the professional Republicans let it be known that if the Trump administration didn't start the transition then they'd refuse to donate a penny to the Georgia special elections. One assumes Moscow Mitch was on the phone to Trump within the minute, telling him that unless he obeyed he'd find himself facing a unanimous vote from Congress to get on with it. So without actually admitting that Biden won or certifying the election in any way, the GSA is now grudgingly providing resources to the incoming administration.

Really, let's hear it for the Republican respect for the rule of law.

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Oh, right. I've read that according to the permanent workers in the Census bureau, it will not be possible to release the numbers until January 25. Wouldn't that be interesting.

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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:00 am 
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Color me amused: the magats are calling for a boycott of the special election in Georgia. That'll show 'em what happens when you let Trump lose despite all the Republican voter suppression and election fraud! Or something.

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Color me amused: the magats are calling for a boycott of the special election in Georgia. That'll show 'em what happens when you let Trump lose despite all the Republican voter suppression and election fraud! Or something.

Oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please.....

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