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Lord Golbez
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Post Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 3:10 am |
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I find it hard to believe that Gwynn, who has partially been through the same process, would confuse Siphy II for a demon. It sort of makes sense given the info Gwynn wants, but I just can't see around why she'd suddenly call her a demon.
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CheeseWhisper
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Post Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:39 am |
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I agree that Gwynn knows who Siphy II is (or at least that she's human).
Also, Torg specifically says "the other guy", which does not seem to indicate a female.
Other random question: when Ozzid noticed that the bloodline was restored, it seemed to be as a result of Siphy's release. However, when she got torched, Ozzid seemed to think there wasn't enough left -- so why is he still around? Furthermore, why is he sticking with Torg and crew? Does Gwynn actually command him as a "soul descendant" or whatever, or has he just been trapped all this time without a mode of escape? Or does he just not care?
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Lord Golbez
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Post Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 3:41 am |
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Oh shoot. I'm not sure why they're doing this but I think I just realized who the other guy probably is. The ferryman. He's the only really big deal male demon they have captured other than the Bug and there's no way they're doing something that stupid because the circle probably wouldn't even hold poopypants. So I gotta say it's the ferryman even without any plausible spec as to why they would.
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kromiller
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Post Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:18 pm |
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Lord Golbez wrote: Oh shoot. I'm not sure why they're doing this but I think I just realized who the other guy probably is. The ferryman. He's the only really big deal male demon they have captured other than the Bug and there's no way they're doing something that stupid because the circle probably wouldn't even hold poopypants. So I gotta say it's the ferryman even without any plausible spec as to why they would. I HIGHLY doubt Kiki would have a playdate with the Ferryman. I honestly think it's Ollebelle and they are just calling him a terrible demon. I mean, technically, he IS a demon that fully supports the End Demon.
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Lord Golbez
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Post Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:18 pm |
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Unless it's not just a playdate and there's an ulterior motive.
You were right. So Gwynn must have been joking. Surely she doesn't consider Olebelle much of a real threat.
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VVK
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Post Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:23 am |
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Now everybody's finding excuses to leave. I'm kind of suspecting a set-up where it's a trap for another demon who's watching this or something. Though why a demon-and-ferret playdate would provoke one to act, I don't know.
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kromiller
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:47 pm |
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I kind of wonder why Zoe and Gwynn would just leave when they have this demon play-date set up. Especially if they think this is such a bad idea. Although I guess it might be for Zoe to read the book. I forgot the demon books aren't here but at the Antiquarium. Or rather, that the scene isn't taking place where the demon books are, therefore it requires driving away.
I am wondering if Ollebelle will convince Kiki to let him possess her. "For fun". Or convince her to mess up the rune circle so that he can get out. She DOES suffer from getting her logic confused at times.
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Lord Golbez
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Post Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2025 5:55 am |
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Idk if Kiki should be able to get out if she's possessed. Aylee wasn't able to get out when possessed by Lacey. I guess it was a different kind of trap though, so maybe Kiki could still disturb these runes when possessed. My take on it though was that she has to watch out for disrupting the runes because she isn't possessed or a demon.
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randomlanguage
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Post Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 6:40 am |
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Dunloa is going to notice...
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 6:33 am |
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I have an inkling that Riff is more in control than we think...
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tube_rat
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 8:25 am |
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So I guess I'm going to point out the obvious. The bug is tormenting riff to unravel his mind so that gwynn is forced to cast the clarity spell. The question is how does the bug benefit from that? Second question and it's one I fear very much, will gwynn end up killing Zoe to gain enough death magic for a powerful spell? After all siphy 2 killed her best friend sparrow.
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kromiller
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:14 am |
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I CANNOT see Gwynn killing Zoe. I feel like their friendship is way closer than Siphy and Sparrow's, and I don't think Gwynn would sink THAT low.
I, too, am curious as to the Bug's intentions. Does he WANT the clarity spell cast? Right now he has Riff "cognitive but with the mind of a child", as Gwynn stated. So that might be what the Bug wants. Making Riff fully cognitive might not be what the Bug wants. I had thought that if Riff had his full faculties about him, he would give the Bug h3ll and wouldn't allow him any power. But, then, maybe he wouldn't realize he has that ability. I guess Farahn and the Bug were figuring it out from the very beginning. Whereas, the Bug now has experience and can trick Riff, who is new to this environment. Going back to the very beginning of Roomies, there is not much of an environment. I am not sure how the Bug can control Riff's thoughts, but I will take Pete's word for it.
I am unhappy that Gwynn seems to be ignoring Allie as soon as she has gotten favorable information. She needs to take time to think, take the time to listen, and to think about the consequences her actions could have.
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CheeseWhisper
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 12:16 pm |
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kromiller wrote: I am unhappy that Gwynn seems to be ignoring Allie as soon as she has gotten favorable information. She needs to take time to think, take the time to listen, and to think about the consequences her actions could have. Yes. I'm also halfway sure that the "Riff" we've seen is just what the Bug wants Gwynn to believe.
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tube_rat
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:25 pm |
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CheeseWhisper wrote: kromiller wrote: I am unhappy that Gwynn seems to be ignoring Allie as soon as she has gotten favorable information. She needs to take time to think, take the time to listen, and to think about the consequences her actions could have. Yes. I'm also halfway sure that the "Riff" we've seen is just what the Bug wants Gwynn to believe. Ooh, very possible knowing how the bug loves tricks and misdirection.
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tube_rat
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:45 pm |
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kromiller wrote: I CANNOT see Gwynn killing Zoe. I feel like their friendship is way closer than Siphy and Sparrow's, and I don't think Gwynn would sink THAT low. I am doubtful as well but I don't think the chances are zero. kromiller wrote: I, too, am curious as to the Bug's intentions. Does he WANT the clarity spell cast? Right now he has Riff "cognitive but with the mind of a child", as Gwynn stated. So that might be what the Bug wants. Making Riff fully cognitive might not be what the Bug wants. I had thought that if Riff had his full faculties about him, he would give the Bug h3ll and wouldn't allow him any power. But, then, maybe he wouldn't realize he has that ability. I guess Farahn and the Bug were figuring it out from the very beginning. Whereas, the Bug now has experience and can trick Riff, who is new to this environment. Going back to the very beginning of Roomies, there is not much of an environment. I am not sure how the Bug can control Riff's thoughts, but I will take Pete's word for it. the environment seemed to be based on what spells were in the book.  So considering the book is nothing more than scattered spells in gwynn's "dress", I don't think they have much environment at all right now. i think the bug wants riff to be fully cognizant just as he wanted farahn to be. I would think the bug would benefit more from riff's current condition so he could be more easily manipulated. It seems to be that whoever is the bug's jailor is the one who controls the power (the bug couldn't do much without farahn). But there isn't much power in just a single scroll. This one is going to be a mystery for a while.
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