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 Post Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:25 pm 
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Hmmm, if she can generate her own adhesive... that raises some other questions.

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OOh, I like it! How devious.

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 Post Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:40 pm 
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Yes, but I also said "Today's comic infers..."

Ah, right you are. I didn't re-read far(ahn?) enough.
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Actually... Now that I'm saying that... Symachus could have worked to get K'Z'K released from the Book sooner, especially when he had all three Books. Rather than coordinating with the Bug again, he has set out on his own path. I think he'd be content to let K'Z'K remain contained. He currently has a nice little seat of power, and I believe his aim is to consolidate that power so that he rules all of Earth. If he can succeed in that, what need does he have of the Bug? If anything, the Bug may be a threat to that power. So what would he do if Gwynn succeeds in having him and Riff switch places? Certainly, he'd be looking to get himself released, but perhaps in a way that leaves K'Z'K contained.

Symachus wants to effectively eliminate Poopypants (and Prozoato), right? That seems to be part of his master plan to "rise above the pillars of reality"; he appears to believe he can gain enough power to oust them (or at least make them irrelevant).


Well, "rise above" does not necessarily mean eliminate. His interest in Chaz seems to suggest total annihilation is his strategy though.

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I wonder if there will be any consequence to Gwynn not having retrieved all of her powers from the mirror before throwing it away.

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I wonder if there will be any consequence to Gwynn not having retrieved all of her powers from the mirror before throwing it away.

Same. Do you have to hold the mirror... or be near it... or just be the last person who possessed it before it was dropped, or...?

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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:06 am 
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*SIGH* Remember the days when it was Dr. Schlock and Hereti-Corp as the Big Bad?
Seems....lighter.

This Big Bad is darker...worse than PoopyPants. He's been around for a LONG time, doing a LOT of damage...running free. (Symachus) *nervous*

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*SIGH* Remember the days when it was Dr. Schlock and Hereti-Corp as the Big Bad?
Seems....lighter.

This Big Bad is darker...worse than PoopyPants. He's been around for a LONG time, doing a LOT of damage...running free. (Symachus) *nervous*


I mean, poopypants has destroyed all of reality....how many times now? I dunno if I'd say darker or worse. Just new contender for the throne with their own naughty ideas up in the air.

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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:33 pm 
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But has he really? We've already seen that he only seems to affect things on Earth (I believe Krohnus even said "all life on this planet" during the Mokhadun arc).

By the way... did we ever figure out why Dux Kane was important (other than being Siphaniana's father)? It seemed very... Chekhovian, for lack of a better word.

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 Post Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:57 pm 
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*SIGH* Remember the days when it was Dr. Schlock and Hereti-Corp as the Big Bad?
Seems....lighter.

This Big Bad is darker...worse than PoopyPants. He's been around for a LONG time, doing a LOT of damage...running free. (Symachus) *nervous*


I mean, poopypants has destroyed all of reality....how many times now? I dunno if I'd say darker or worse. Just new contender for the throne with their own naughty ideas up in the air.


I kind of get the impression that he doesn't really end *all* reality. I mean we know the gods of Mohkadun have survived from the previous spark and it kind of seems like he's more associated with mass extinction events rather than the end of all reality. Regardless, even though he does have a pos personality, Poopypants is more like a force of nature. You can kind of blame him for being a total manipulative dick about it, but how much can you blame him for just doing what he was made to do? Symachus, on the other hand, is just an evil backstabber traitorous bastard.

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I kind of get the impression that he doesn't really end *all* reality. I mean we know the gods of Mohkadun have survived from the previous spark and it kind of seems like he's more associated with mass extinction events rather than the end of all reality. Regardless, even though he does have a pos personality, Poopypants is more like a force of nature. You can kind of blame him for being a total manipulative dick about it, but how much can you blame him for just doing what he was made to do? Symachus, on the other hand, is just an evil backstabber traitorous bastard.


You know, I was kind of thinking that too. Going back and looking the Bug destroying Sparks, it seems more like mass extinction events. On planet Earth. So other dimensions wouldn't be affected. And it's possible for some beings to survive on to the next Spark.

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I kind of get the impression that he doesn't really end *all* reality. I mean we know the gods of Mohkadun have survived from the previous spark and it kind of seems like he's more associated with mass extinction events rather than the end of all reality. Regardless, even though he does have a pos personality, Poopypants is more like a force of nature. You can kind of blame him for being a total manipulative dick about it, but how much can you blame him for just doing what he was made to do? Symachus, on the other hand, is just an evil backstabber traitorous bastard.

You know, I was kind of thinking that too. Going back and looking the Bug destroying Sparks, it seems more like mass extinction events. On planet Earth. So other dimensions wouldn't be affected. And it's possible for some beings to survive on to the next Spark.

Well, we do tend to be egocentric. If the Sluggiverse is essentially Earth, then humans have only existed for a small percentage of the time. Yet there have been six or seven or so sparks. Either Sluggy-Earth is extremely old, or we're only really talking about wiping out mankind. When we do see K'Z'K in action, he seems singularly focused on taking out humans, we don't see him torturing or killing dogs, cows, camels, etc. So I think he's just an extinction event for humans, rather than even "just" a mass extinction event.

There's an inference that the gods that survived from the previous spark were originally plain old human beings. For some reason that we don't quite get (yet), Sluggy elected to move forward as a bunny. But IIRC he was human in the previous spark. Also, IIRC, either Prozoato or Khronus hand-picked those who would survive into the next spark to form the pantheon. It wasn't happenstance.

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There's an inference that the gods that survived from the previous spark were originally plain old human beings. For some reason that we don't quite get (yet), Sluggy elected to move forward as a bunny. But IIRC he was human in the previous spark. Also, IIRC, either Prozoato or Khronus hand-picked those who would survive into the next spark to form the pantheon. It wasn't happenstance.

Yes the gods survived their prior spark, and yes they were handpicked -- but I got the impression Sluggy started out as a rabbit, not a human. Maybe that was the bunny spark?
I mean, Uncle Time was a spider, so they're obviously not all starting out as what we would consider humans.
Even Khronus looks like a jacked-up version of the gray aliens, which could easily be the chosen sentients for one spark.

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I kind of get the impression that he doesn't really end *all* reality. I mean we know the gods of Mohkadun have survived from the previous spark and it kind of seems like he's more associated with mass extinction events rather than the end of all reality. Regardless, even though he does have a pos personality, Poopypants is more like a force of nature. You can kind of blame him for being a total manipulative dick about it, but how much can you blame him for just doing what he was made to do? Symachus, on the other hand, is just an evil backstabber traitorous bastard.

You know, I was kind of thinking that too. Going back and looking the Bug destroying Sparks, it seems more like mass extinction events. On planet Earth. So other dimensions wouldn't be affected. And it's possible for some beings to survive on to the next Spark.

Well, we do tend to be egocentric. If the Sluggiverse is essentially Earth, then humans have only existed for a small percentage of the time. Yet there have been six or seven or so sparks. Either Sluggy-Earth is extremely old, or we're only really talking about wiping out mankind. When we do see K'Z'K in action, he seems singularly focused on taking out humans, we don't see him torturing or killing dogs, cows, camels, etc. So I think he's just an extinction event for humans, rather than even "just" a mass extinction event.

There's an inference that the gods that survived from the previous spark were originally plain old human beings. For some reason that we don't quite get (yet), Sluggy elected to move forward as a bunny. But IIRC he was human in the previous spark. Also, IIRC, either Prozoato or Khronus hand-picked those who would survive into the next spark to form the pantheon. It wasn't happenstance.


I think it depends on the spark. For a dinosaur dominated spark, he was an extinction event for the dinosaurs. For a human dominated spark, he's an extinction event for the humans. It also might be a playing with his food kind of thing (not that he eats people, but bear with my tortured analogy a bit). We know that he likes doing things like deadels, but when push comes to shove, that stuffs just a precursor to actually ending the spark. Just something he does for fun when he thinks he has all the time in the world to mess around before ending the spark. After he got out of the Book of Ughlee, it was clear he was intent on skipping all that to end the spark right away, presumably by use of a meteor or meteors based on his words "time to make the sky fall again." The meteor(s) would obviously be a lot less discriminate about what gets killed. However, while he's doing poop like deadels, it makes sense that he would focus on more intelligent life he can screw around with more.

As far as the previously being humans thing, I think the opposite was the case. In the case of Bun-Bun, he remained a rabbit, but Uncle Time was previously a spider and the others might have previously been other things as well.

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Well, we do tend to be egocentric. If the Sluggiverse is essentially Earth, then humans have only existed for a small percentage of the time. Yet there have been six or seven or so sparks. Either Sluggy-Earth is extremely old, or we're only really talking about wiping out mankind. When we do see K'Z'K in action, he seems singularly focused on taking out humans, we don't see him torturing or killing dogs, cows, camels, etc. So I think he's just an extinction event for humans, rather than even "just" a mass extinction event.

There's an inference that the gods that survived from the previous spark were originally plain old human beings. For some reason that we don't quite get (yet), Sluggy elected to move forward as a bunny. But IIRC he was human in the previous spark. Also, IIRC, either Prozoato or Khronus hand-picked those who would survive into the next spark to form the pantheon. It wasn't happenstance.


SO, when Queen Siphaniana was explaining how Prozoato created life and Kozoaku destroyed it, she just mentioned that they were creations of Prozoato. Nothing about humans. At some point, humans were created, but at first it would have been the early life on the planet...the primordial sea, dinosaurs, early primates, early man, etc. You can see that HERE:
https://archives.sluggy.com/book.php?ch ... 2013-05-06

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It's also interesting that The One (not Prozoato) gave Krohnus his power.

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