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eldion
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 3:48 pm |
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My Spec on Bun-Bun:
That is not Bun-Bun. It's Anise taking Bun-Bun's form. Hence the occasional lapses in character.
Which makes sense if my spec about the Book of Ughlee is also correct. Its ultimate purpose is to deliver a pile of demons in a nice neat package to Y. If that's true, then it makes perfect sense to send Anise to keep tabs on the gang and make sure that they keep filling up the book with more demons.
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CheeseWhisper
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:00 pm |
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That makes a scary amount of sense, and fits better than any other spec to date (all I could think of was Zefolas from that other weird dimension, but that wouldn't work here).
I don't really know what Symachus would do with all those demons, but he seems ambitious enough to have some plan for them.
...and how the heck did he get Lord Sluggy/Bun Bun out of the picture? That doesn't make me doubt your conjecture at all; it just makes me wonder even more.
Edit: oh man, even his "happy eyes" look like Anise now that I think of it.
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Lord Golbez
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 5:01 pm |
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eldion wrote: My Spec on Bun-Bun:
That is not Bun-Bun. It's Anise taking Bun-Bun's form. Hence the occasional lapses in character.
Which makes sense if my spec about the Book of Ughlee is also correct. Its ultimate purpose is to deliver a pile of demons in a nice neat package to Y. If that's true, then it makes perfect sense to send Anise to keep tabs on the gang and make sure that they keep filling up the book with more demons. It's purpose? And Dunuloa was worried about the Book of Bhad. All in all that makes me wonder. Symachus is one character who's been around long enough to possibly pull it off. Do you think he was manipulating Quint when he made the books? I kind of doubt it because I figure he would have gotten to the books sooner if he had a hand in their creation, but I can't rule it out.
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eldion
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 6:13 pm |
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Lord Golbez wrote: It's purpose? And Dunuloa was worried about the Book of Bhad. All in all that makes me wonder. Symachus is one character who's been around long enough to possibly pull it off. Do you think he was manipulating Quint when he made the books? I kind of doubt it because I figure he would have gotten to the books sooner if he had a hand in their creation, but I can't rule it out.
Well, we still don't know how Quint got so knowledgable about magic in the first place...
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kromiller
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:52 am |
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eldion wrote: My Spec on Bun-Bun:
That is not Bun-Bun. It's Anise taking Bun-Bun's form. Hence the occasional lapses in character.
Which makes sense if my spec about the Book of Ughlee is also correct. Its ultimate purpose is to deliver a pile of demons in a nice neat package to Y. If that's true, then it makes perfect sense to send Anise to keep tabs on the gang and make sure that they keep filling up the book with more demons. OOOOOHHHHhhhhhhhh! Well CRAP. You may be right. I went back and looked at some of the strips surrounding Anise and his companions, as well as strips from earlier in this Chapter. I am thinking that Anise (or Basil/Coriander), might be the head-tilting guy as well. Both of them. At the end of the last chapter, Anise DID say that he was getting confused by all the people he had to manipulate. https://archives.sluggy.com/book.php?chapter=73#2023-06-20It would make sense that he or the other two would be keeping tabs on the gang at the Antiquarium. They were keeping tabs on Torg/gang around the time of the Woods Mushroom Dryad, when Noogy visited. Then we see the same head-tilt and behavior with the 'weird neighbor' that is following Sharon Gall. Who also was being manipulated by Anise in "fate spider" form. So I think Anise is taking on MANY forms, and all for the benefit of Yffi/Symachus. And at some point, he probably inserted himself into BunBun. BunBun was acting like his normal grumpy uncaring self up until the evening that the gang went to the Oceanus. He had that odd happy attitude when he wanted to join them to kick demon butt. He was acting a bit smiley and happy all while they were outside. Dude...this sucks. If Basil and Coriander aren't involved, I wonder what THEY are up to?? Still at the Cave of Yffi? Something more nefarious? Okay, editing to update: I re-read the comment and realized that it was said that it was Anise in BunBun's FORM...not possessing BunBun. So yeah, that makes more sense, as I just had that same thought right after I posted. Anise takes many forms, so most likely that is NOT BunBun. But...I wonder where BunBun is. Although...the last time we saw him before the Oceanus stuff, he was happy that he had his bag of diamonds and ran off. So he is probably doing something with them.
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swmartian
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:19 pm |
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Well now we know. I think Anise was an interesting spec, but having fun clobbering the kids with "punchable faces" seemed a little too in character for anyone else to be emulating Bun-Bun. The tilted-head folks with crossed eyes, however, are a different matter. I would have expected the same human form if they were Anise, though. I'm still thinking demons, but I have no idea why... I suspect we'll find out soon, though. I spec that Noogy survived the encounter. And that will make her all the more determined to find the gang...
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kromiller
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Post Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:32 pm |
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swmartian wrote: Well now we know. I think Anise was an interesting spec, but having fun clobbering the kids with "punchable faces" seemed a little too in character for anyone else to be emulating Bun-Bun. The tilted-head folks with crossed eyes, however, are a different matter. I would have expected the same human form if they were Anise, though. I'm still thinking demons, but I have no idea why... I suspect we'll find out soon, though. I spec that Noogy survived the encounter. And that will make her all the more determined to find the gang... Well, I am thinking that first Anise was emulating Detective Flannery, in the woods near the Mushroom Dryad. And then when Anise found out more, he switched to Sharon's neighbor. Or he was just doing both. I think he is capable of emulating multiple human forms if he needs to. I would also not be surprised about demons, as that is what I originally thought. Someone possessed them.
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Lord Golbez
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Post Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 11:10 pm |
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I'm not 100% on the canonicity of anniversary comics, but until plainly stated otherwise, I'm gonna take Bun-Bun"s explanation of losing bets to Aylee as the gospel truth. Besides, what would Anise do if the real Bun-Bun showed up? Seems like an unnecessary risk and Symachus knows Bun-Bun as well as anyone.
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skincell
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:48 am |
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wild spec: Meander become Dr. Lorna with time travel shenanigans.
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Spirantz
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 1:24 pm |
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skincell wrote: wild spec: Meander become Dr. Lorna with time travel shenanigans. Now THAT's just cruel.
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tube_rat
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:56 pm |
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skincell wrote: wild spec: Meander become Dr. Lorna with time travel shenanigans. bwahahahahaa! that's good.
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swmartian
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Post Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 11:10 pm |
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Anyone else half-expecting Frog to come a-courting? LOL
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Spirantz
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Post Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:24 am |
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Last strip Torg and Zoe were discussing the newly caught demons from Oceanus and how they may not have an inherent "type" like emergent or possessor. I specced something like this back in July on the true nature of demons and crossing over. Just dropping that back in here instead of re-writing it out... Spirantz wrote: tube_rat wrote: I thought ozid was supposed to be weak. But in reality he's an emergent (based on Sharon's definition) which should be rare and powerful. Ozid has no need of a host and of he does possess someone they look different. But on the other hand just about any human has a stronger will and can dominate him. Others like Lacey and Chilus require a host but easily dominate the will of their hosts. And then you have mcpoopypants who is both strong and emergent although he doesn't do much possessing (probably because he has no need).
I guess what this means is that strength and type do not necessarily correlate. I always figured it was more a matter of where their strength can be put to use. Emergent like Ozzid are powerful enough to exist on their own. But when they exist on their own, their powers are basically being used to do just that. Exist. Apparently that's pretty hard. As a result, they can be overpowered by others. Poopypants, on the other hand, is crazy strong enough to both exist and still be strong. Possessors like Lacey and Chilus aren't strong enough to exist on their own, so they don't even try. But when they possess someone, their full power gets put into controlling people. Makes me wonder that if someone like Ozzid went back to the Never, would he be the equivalent of a powerful demon lord because he doesn't need to spend his power on existing? That might also be why they're so rare.... emergent types can choose to stay home and be powerful, or come to earth and exist on their own without having to possess a gross human body...but be weak. Basically, forcing a choice of strength vs. independence. That would eliminate the need for subtypes, too. So....that's my spec. 1) Spec on the true nature of demons. 2) Ozzid is secretly some powerful demon from the never who's hiding out in the nifty world, for whatever reason. Or perhaps just bound there. There's spec for thought, anyway!
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Lord Golbez
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Post Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 9:45 pm |
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I'm curious about who the 3 o'clock is. Somehow I doubt it's just an innocuous rando.
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JoshS
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 5:28 pm |
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Gwen is looking for a way to rescue Riff. But SOMEBODY needs to be a jailer for Poopy. Riff would have the character to keep him contained, he has so much guilt that he might not even feel cheated. He's already devoted to saving the world.
But he doesn't have any magic ability.
Gwen would be more effective in his place.
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