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 Post Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 11:47 pm 
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Kiki was able to rub her two brain cells together to scratch the circles. Now how will the demons thank the wizard for his hospitality?

Friday does not know, but it should be horribly interesting.


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 Post Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 12:23 am 
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Olebelle once again reigns supreme in this game of tag.

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 Post Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 2:00 am 
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That poor guy... Maybe?

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 Post Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 6:47 am 
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Nicely done, Pete!

To the demons, the human was the monster, and therefore deserved what humans do to monsters. Or, 'everyone is the hero in their own story'.

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 Post Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 9:09 am 
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This is a fascinating deeper look into Ozzid's self-aware but essentially amoral alignment.

Kiki, of course, inhabits a morality of her own, largely created by her inability to hold on to a coherent thought.

Now what does this mean for the next stage of the plot? Who will the wizard turn out to (have) be(en)? What about this mysteeeeerious talisman? So many new questions...

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 Post Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 11:07 am 
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CheeseWhisper wrote:
This is a fascinating deeper look into Ozzid's self-aware but essentially amoral alignment.

Kiki, of course, inhabits a morality of her own, largely created by her inability to hold on to a coherent thought.


Now I know the world is ending, :kiki: failed to stay good from a wider point of view. Although I guess it depends why the wizard was building a collection of demons.

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 Post Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 11:11 am 
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I think this is that so-called peer pressure that mom and dad always warned us about. Kiki is falling in with a bad crowd, but due to the weird situation, does not entirely realize it yet. Stay good, Kiki! Stay good!

CheeseWhisper wrote:
Now what does this mean for the next stage of the plot? Who will the wizard turn out to (have) be(en)? What about this mysteeeeerious talisman? So many new questions...

We (presumably) have the required missing spell page(s) here, still to be found and collected by the nifty gang. Not sure if anything ultimately changes in the MSQ due to this sidequest :kiki:

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 Post Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 2:25 pm 
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CheeseWhisper wrote:
This is a fascinating deeper look into Ozzid's self-aware but essentially amoral alignment.


Yeah, he continues to be one of the most interesting new characters.

He's not necessarily moral himself, but is both objective about what he is and what is going on around him and is pragmatic and fair in his understanding of how those things should work, which nevertheless skews him towards things that resemble but are not exactly moral conclusions. At least, that's how I've been wrapping my head around him.

Like, for instance the impression I've been getting is that he agrees that demons like himself being locked up is the better solution for everyone, but not necessarily via the same moralistic thought process people like Torg or Gwynn use.

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 Post Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 3:54 am 
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but not necessarily via the same moralistic thought process people like Torg or Gwynn use.

Torg's morality is another question. Remember when he unilaterally decided that killing zombie head on a stick would be a "good" thing for her, despite her becoming a zombie was because she's terrified of death.

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 Post Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 7:07 am 
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That happened surprisingly quickly, and I didn't expect Kiki to say "yay" so blithely.

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 Post Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 9:04 am 
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VcSaJen wrote:
CodeBlack wrote:
but not necessarily via the same moralistic thought process people like Torg or Gwynn use.

Torg's morality is another question. Remember when he unilaterally decided that killing zombie head on a stick would be a "good" thing for her, despite her becoming a zombie was because she's terrified of death.

That's certainly one take. lol. I doubt pre-human ZHOAS realized she wouldn't be herself anymore after becoming a zombie. Just something that takes her body and exploits her existing memories. She was already dead and gone.

Rather, I think Torg's infantilizing of a severed zombie head and treating it as a plaything for years certainly says something much worse about him than that ever could :torg:

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