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KaBob799
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It's very satisfying to finally have bun-bun stuff revealed to the other characters in a way that can't be so easily dismissed.
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swmartian
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Post Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:56 pm |
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Ozzid sure is a curious demon... I wonder if he's resisting playing with Kiki, whether it's just too peopley for him, or a mixture of both? Someday I'd love to hear his backstory and how he ended up bonded to the Liberliganus family.
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GUIGUI
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Post Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 3:07 am |
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CheeseWhisper wrote: Yes, but Zoe leads with question that seems to indicate she had no idea Bun Bun had been around for so long. If it's something Basphomy knew about, maybe it's about how Bun-Bun isn't even from this current spark but the previous one.
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Spirantz
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Post Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:05 am |
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James wrote: Looking at the magic circle and the warnings about not disturbing it I'm now wondering how much of an offset it has internally. Six inches between the edge of the runes and where a demon can go? Less? What happens if they kick up dirt?
Not speculation, it just made me curious about magic engineering and product design. Either way, I’m sure Kiki will be veeeery careful with it.
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swmartian
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Post Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:59 pm |
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Spirantz wrote: James wrote: Looking at the magic circle and the warnings about not disturbing it I'm now wondering how much of an offset it has internally. Six inches between the edge of the runes and where a demon can go? Less? What happens if they kick up dirt?
Not speculation, it just made me curious about magic engineering and product design. Either way, I’m sure Kiki will be veeeery careful with it. BWAH-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!
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zhecht
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Post Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 11:11 pm |
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Biscuit wrote: I wanna know the rules for Kettelers of Satan!
Fun fact, did you know electric kettles in the UK, at 240V, boil the water twice as fast as kettles in the US that use 120V? Not quite, since US 120V outlets can do 15A, but UK 230V outlets can only do 13A. Therefore it's 2990W vs 1800W, or 66% faster.
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CheeseWhisper
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Post Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 11:22 pm |
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zhecht wrote: Biscuit wrote: I wanna know the rules for Kettelers of Satan!
Fun fact, did you know electric kettles in the UK, at 240V, boil the water twice as fast as kettles in the US that use 120V? Not quite, since US 120V outlets can do 15A, but UK 240V outlets can only do 13A. Therefore it's 3120W vs 1800W, or 73% faster. Doesn’t that completely depend on the circuit? You can have 20A 120V circuits and even higher.
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tube_rat
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Post Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:20 am |
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GUIGUI wrote: CheeseWhisper wrote: Yes, but Zoe leads with question that seems to indicate she had no idea Bun Bun had been around for so long. If it's something Basphomy knew about, maybe it's about how Bun-Bun isn't even from this current spark but the previous one. I just had a thought. Do those books contain everything the demon knew, even if they forgot? Bas has been around for a lot of years, surely time (real time and not uncle time) has made some of those memories fuzzy at best.
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kromiller
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Post Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:57 pm |
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James wrote: Looking at the magic circle and the warnings about not disturbing it I'm now wondering how much of an offset it has internally. Six inches between the edge of the runes and where a demon can go? Less? What happens if they kick up dirt?
Not speculation, it just made me curious about magic engineering and product design. So, I am confused about Qwynn's statement about being careful not to mess up the circle trap. Back in Vermont, after the summoning, Numbskull was stuck in the circle trap and asked Gnaww to kick dirt to cover up some runes so that he could escape. And she said that she though it would take more than kicking dirt to dispell the magic. https://archives.sluggy.com/book.php?ch ... 2023-08-31So why would Gwynn's circle be dispelled so easily? Unless Lady's Tomb's circle was more powerful. OR it was because Numbskull was stuck IN the runes themselves.
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Lord Golbez
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Post Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:16 pm |
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She may have just said that because she wanted something, but at any rate it must not have been too hard, because she was able to do it.
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Rombobjörn
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 6:20 am |
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We know that changing the shape of a single rune can break a ward. That was probably a different spell, but I expect that the principle holds. It may be that just covering the runes doesn't affect the spell, but destroying them does. And these runes are written on a lawn. Would ruffling the grass a little be enough to break the spell? Demons are presumably unable to touch the runes, but could they throw an object that could damage a rune?
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Rombobjörn
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CheeseWhisper wrote: zhecht wrote: Biscuit wrote: Fun fact, did you know electric kettles in the UK, at 240V, boil the water twice as fast as kettles in the US that use 120V? Not quite, since US 120V outlets can do 15A, but UK 240V outlets can only do 13A. Therefore it's 3120W vs 1800W, or 73% faster. Doesn’t that completely depend on the circuit? You can have 20A 120V circuits and even higher. It depends on the heating element in the kettle. It's not like outlets always enforce the maximum current. The current your circuit breakers are labelled with is the limit you mustn't exceed. How much power is actually drawn depends on what appliances you plug in. A heating element is a resistor. It has a given resistance. If a resistor connected to 120 V draws 1800 W, then its resistance is R = U² / P = 8 Ω. If you connect the same resistor to 240 V, it will draw P = U² / R = 7200 W, so four times as much, because the voltage is squared. By I = P / U that's 30 A, and will trip your 20 A circuit breaker immediately. Electric kettles sold in different countries need to be made with different resistances in order to work with different voltages.
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CheeseWhisper
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:04 am |
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Rombobjörn wrote: CheeseWhisper wrote: zhecht wrote: Not quite, since US 120V outlets can do 15A, but UK 240V outlets can only do 13A. Therefore it's 3120W vs 1800W, or 73% faster. Doesn’t that completely depend on the circuit? You can have 20A 120V circuits and even higher. It depends on the heating element in the kettle. It's not like outlets always enforce the maximum current. The current your circuit breakers are labelled with is the limit you mustn't exceed. How much power is actually drawn depends on what appliances you plug in. A heating element is a resistor. It has a given resistance. If a resistor connected to 120 V draws 1800 W, then its resistance is R = U² / P = 8 Ω. If you connect the same resistor to 240 V, it will draw P = U² / R = 7200 W, so four times as much, because the voltage is squared. By I = P / U that's 30 A, and will trip your 20 A circuit breaker immediately. Electric kettles sold in different countries need to be made with different resistances in order to work with different voltages. A worthy scientist/engineer approaches! Yes... I was trying to stay away from going full-on nerd, so I addressed the supply since that was the current (heh) point of contention. But yeah, there's a lot more to it, as you said.
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