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 Post Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:38 pm 
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New Vegas is a worthy successor to the franchise, and I consider it's strength as canon to be equal to Fallout 2. Fallout 3 wasn't even a particularly good game, much less a Fallout game.

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And here Mass Effect was on my "finish this" list because I wanted to play ME2. Is it really so bad as to make Fallout 3 look better than awful?

It's quite a bit more railroad-y, and the story makes absolutely no damn sense. Even less sense than "radioactive water". Gameplay-wise, it's far more shooter than RPG; there's basically no real reason to level up if you've got good shooter reflexes. It also does a hell of a lot more damage to the setting than Fallout 3 did.

Just a short "for instance": in the first five minutes of the game, Commander Shepard dies.

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 Post Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:28 pm 
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I've seen the beginning (on an xBox 360.)

I knew about the dying, and the gameplay change. I thought it improved the combat, frankly.

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 Post Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:54 pm 
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It feels more like Call of Duty than a sci-fi future. If you like that sort of thing, it could be an improvement, I guess.

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 Post Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:57 pm 
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Call of Duty isn't a cover-based shooter. Cover Based Shooters have a mechanic where you stick to cover, like Gears of War. In CoD you need to use cover, but you don't stick to it, so its an FPS not cover-based.

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Like it matters. ME2 has ammo, for some stupid reason.

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 Post Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:44 am 
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Well, all I have is Fallout 3, and I don't own ME2, so I lack the perspective to make a call about it's quality when compared to those titles. Besides, there is so much crap and palp coming out of the game industry these days that games worthy of being called "Great" are fast becoming an endangered species. About the only companies that I trust to regularly produce even a "Good" game are Ubisoft, and Bungie.

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Even less sense than "radioactive water".


Radioactive water does make some sense: The radiation comes from radioactive dust and silt mixed into the water itself. "Purified" water has simply been heavily filtered or distilled to remove these harmful micro-particles.

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That's why radioactive water makes a little bit of sense - water can be radioactive, yes (though it really can't be radioactive on the scale presented in Fallout 3 - rivers and oceans are not going to be radioactive because the natural processes of the hydrosphere purify them already.) Whereas the plot of Mass Effect 2 - which consists of puréeing abducted humans in order to make a giant Terminator-like "Human-Reaper" - is just completely stupid.

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Ahh. I see.

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