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 Post subject: Re: Trump.
 Post Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:00 pm 
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Trump obviously wants to ignore the problem, carry on with business as usual, not test for the virus, let people assume they've just got a nasty cold, and hope that whoever dies from it will go down as a normal old age pneumonia statistic.

How functional can the health agencies be under "leadership" like this?

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 Post subject: Re: Trump.
 Post Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:45 pm 
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One of the attendees at CPAC has tested positive for coronavirus. There's no freude like schadenfreude, like no freude I know...

Though they were quick to point out that no one important was directly exposed, and claimed that this person never entered the main hall; it's still a good thing that infectious diseases never jump from person to person. Otherwise a huge chunk of those beloved citizens could be spreading that disease throughout the political right at this very moment; and we could see some three or four out of every hundred of them die before May. Which would be a terrible pity.

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 Post Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:39 pm 
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What I am dreading is that the Trump administration will bungle its pandemic response so badly that China will have cause to be smug. They're pushing the "we heroically bought the world time" narrative (after covering it up for weeks) while circulating the conspiracy that it originally came from outside China so it isn't their fault. So, I can't enjoy much schadenfreude.

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I see stories that China is starting to reopen important industries, though civilian travel is still pretty much forbidden in the plague zones. Here in the US, well, we now formally have a bear market (down 20% in the last 28 days). Yes, I'm losing some money here; but if it gets rid of Trump and helps swing the Senate then I'm all for it.

Though Sanders still wants to help Trump win, I'm not sure how much good he'll do this time. A lot of his 'base' in the swing states turn out to be folks who despised Clinton and don't dislike Biden. Well, we shall see.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump.
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:33 am 
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A plan of action which (when clarified by underlings) was basically just cutting off travel to the places in Europe where Trump doesn't have properties apparently didn't reassure the market. Who knew.

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Of course Trump wants to respond to pandemic with travel restrictions and tax cuts. His two favourite things.

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 Post Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:36 pm 
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The Fed is giving away money interest free and is supposedly going to drop 1.5 trillion bucks on supporting the market. With that in mind, the Dow closed today within 100 points of where it was when Trump took office. In real money it's down about 6%. So much for the trillions of bucks the GOP ran up in debt pumping up the market for the last three years.

So what is Trump going to run on now besides protecting everyone from black Muslim teenage immigrant welfare mothers on drugs, and who outside his dead end base will be buying? Without even worrying about how many millions of them might be dead by election day, it's an interesting problem in practical politics.

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How much time between this being a stock market freak-out and a real life recession, with people losing jobs and homes? They say it's going to be bad, and helicopter money won't help if people are too afraid to go out and spend it, and if the actual supply chain is seriously disrupted.

There's still a bunch of people who are looking at Trump's shambolic leadership and saying "this is fine", or convinced that it's a manufactured panic to hurt Trump's reelection. And on the off chance that the mass shutdowns successfully stop the virus from spreading, they'll take it as proof that it was all unnecessary scaremongering in the first place. Hopefully this group is now too small to win elections.

Edit: Approval of Trump's handling of the coronavirus falls strictly along partisan lines. 55% disapprove, 45% approve. 80+% of Republicans approve, 80+% of Democrats disapprove, Independents split. It's the same as everything else. I would be willing to bet that even if the hospitals get DDOSed, it won't change opinions one bit. They'll just blame Democrats. Or Obamacare. Or immigrants.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump.
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:04 pm 
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They're not hurting yet, they can still lie for free. Wait until it starts actually costing them.

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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:51 pm 
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Interesting that Fox News flipped overnight from "eh, no big deal" to "this is serious, guys". Viewers won't even notice the contradiction, people usually don't. They'll just think that they became concerned at exactly the right moment. They'll watch the one speech where Trump looks serious and ignore all the batpoop crazy stuff he tweets afterwards.

But I reckon things are going to get a lot weirder. Creepy "wartime" president authoritarian cosplay weird. Millenarial cult weird. World leaders spouting conspiracy theories weird (that's already happening). Pitchforks and torches xenophobia weird.

Trump will be wallowing like a pig in mud. We gotta take this dipstick down.

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I mean, yeah. It was evident from Day 1 that we needed to get him out of office as soon as possible.

For years, I'd been seeing a stupid meme about gas prices during G. W. Bush's presidency and it asked "miss me yet?" and it always made me irrationally angry until Trump became President.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump.
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:25 pm 
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Trump just duly announced he wants to eliminate the health insurance of some 20 million Americans. That'll show that virus who's boss!

He also wants to reopen businesses next week. Why? Apparently because 6 of his 7 most profitable hotels and clubs had to close. Clearly this is bad for the economy: better a pandemic flooding our hospitals and killing our people than that.

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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:47 pm 
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The Walton family are drug dealers. For years they chose to have Walmart criminally sell opioids to folks with what they knew at the time were bogus prescriptions. It got a lot of folks killed, too; but none of them were Waltons. Then the Feds got ready to prosecute. What's a psychopathic family of rather rich Republicans to do?

You guessed it, go to the Trump administration. The DOJ formally killed the indictments and sabotaged any civil charges brought by Federal law enforcement. Funny thing is that some of the Waltons gave a fair amount of money to Clinton in 2016...did they kindly and coincidentally donate a bunch of money to the Trump reelection campaign this time? Surely not. That would have the appearance of impropriety...

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 Post subject: Re: Trump.
 Post Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:31 pm 
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Interesting development in Florida: the already underwater Republicans (their wilful incompetence and the virus are a bad mix) just got handed their butts again in court. The 17 ex-felons who sued to get back their right to vote absent paying their fines and fees just got granted class status: which means the order forbidding Florida from keeping them from voting simply because they can't afford the sum involved affects all ex-felons. Moreover the court has said that it will take over the administration of this project if the Republicans don't do their job, so ignoring the court to run out the clock is also no longer an option.

Oddly enough a lot of those ex-felons are white Republicans from upstate Florida, but apparently either it's not enough of them or the GOP can't bring themselves to admit that simple truth. Either way, oops.

Oh, and we need a new useless and unapproved Trump sycophant to be acting Secretary of the Navy. The old one was too much of an embarrassment and got sacked today. Granted he was only doing what he was supposed to when he purged the skipper of the TR, but he did it much too hamhandedly.

And to the question of why the GOP seems determined to murder voters in order to force in person voting? Quite aside from being a party of a small minority of Americans, those Americans are the ones stupid enough to take the risk lightly. The Onion thoughtfully provided them with a way to thank those voters, too: 'I voted' gravestones.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump.
 Post Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:07 pm 
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Now this is amusing to me. Trump successfully jacked up the price of gasoline in the US. How? By agreeing to cut US production not just to the level needed to keep our share of production in line, but to cut it further in order to cover Mexico's cut. Yes, the deal would not have gone forward if Trump did not agree to cut US production by the amount Mexico was supposed to, but refused to, cut. Ye cats.

This may prove interesting. Trump's desperately trying to kill the USPS (as are many of the folks in the professional wing of his party). That said, 91% of the US Public thinks well of the Post Office. It's also the only agency with the same approval rating from but Democrats/Democratic leaners and Republicans/Republican leaners. It's not going to be real easy for the Republicans in the Senate to go to the wall to defend Trump on this if it becomes a showdown; killing the Post Office so they can loot it's corpse is something they have to do quietly.

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