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 Post subject: Re: Trump.
 Post Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:08 pm 
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Welp. The number of women who say Al Franken creeped on them is now up to 7, and the last one was a former Democratic congressional aide. And that to her, he allegedly said out loud that he felt entitled, as an entertainer, to kiss women.

I think he's screwed now, and he'll have nobody to blame but himself.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump.
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Yup. He's out.

Tuesday is Alabamageddon. Eyes peeled!

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 Post subject: Re: Trump.
 Post Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:14 pm 
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If Roy Moore gets elected, I think the most likely scenario will be that the Republicans will sweep it all under the rug and say that Moore must be treated like he is innocent because the voters of Alabama have "exonerated" him. Any talk of an ethics inquiry will be quietly squelched, because if they investigate Moore, they're going to have to entertain questions about why they're letting Trump slide.

They'll act as though getting angry at sexual predators is just a thing that hysterical, hypocritical liberals do; why, serious people should focus on tax cuts. And their voters will take the cue. The knuckle dragging misogynists will get even louder and more obnoxious, while the self-identified mainstream Republicans will be given a fig leaf to ignore the issue.

So I really, really hope Moore loses. But I'm bracing for the worst case scenario.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump.
 Post Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:31 pm 
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Looks like we've been spared that. Barring shenanigans, a Democrat is heading to the Senate from Alabama. Open question of when, but the Republicans just lost a vote there.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump.
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Where do you see that? I've been googling the election results for the past hour and all the sites I see say they're still counting.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump.
 Post Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:35 pm 
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The AP called it about ten minutes ago; the NY Times has a really good real time vote counter running, and Jones is pretty much doomed to win by a point or so now.

Oh, and some of my neighbors are celebrating. Strange times.

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Although it's not my circus, and they're not my monkeys, I am pleased by this result.

Hopefully there will now be a little bit less poop thrown around.

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This is a good sign. As crazy as Moore was, he was a mirror image of Trump, running in the reddest state of the USA. I think the fever is starting to break.

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I think most Alabamians would have been willing to vote for an ignorant, omni-bigoted nutjob, just not an ignorant, omni-bigoted, child-molesting nutjob. We can't count on Surprise Pervert revelations to save the Democrats in every election, and the upcoming Senate midterms are still going to be very tough for the Dems. They've only got 8 Republican seats to try to pick off, but they have to defend over 20 of their own, several of them in deep Trump country.

On the plus side, Steve Bannon is a laughing stock and all the Republicans are blaming him for losing a seat in freaking Alabama. I hope that anything he says in the future will be met with "Shut up, Steve. Nobody cares what you think." A girl can dream.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump.
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People refusing to vote for Moore was a big factor, yes, but you can't discount people turning out to vote for Jones --that was significant as well. Also momentum is a real thing. To your point about Bannon, I think this result emboldens or chastens all the right people.

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Well, I hope this gives the Democrats the motivation to run viable candidates and for their voters to show up in red states. In 2016, they didn't even try.

I hear the voter suppression in Alabama was still pretty bad. They mysteeeeeeriously closed all the DMVs in all the black neighbourhoods to make it harder for people get IDs, voters were erroneously disqualified for being inactive, and poll workers demanding that voters remember the county where they were born, which is a totally made up and completely bollocks requirement. They also had the police hanging around polling places to check people for outstanding warrants to scare people away. They really needed overwhelming turnout to override the shenanigans.

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