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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:14 pm 
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These boards don't deal well with characters not found on american keyboards. They splice all kinds of crap in their place which renders the word illegible.
That was bad enough, but I found the boards can't even handle the Pound Sterling sign: £ ... that being standard fare for us British folk.

Can't anything be done to fix this?

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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:35 pm 
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That's odd. I'm sure that non-ASCII characters used to work fine.

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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:46 pm 
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Well,

The page source for this page (and presumably the entire board) says the character set is UTF-8. So there's no reason, in theory, that all the characters shouldn't be supported.

Heck, Cyrillic and Hebrew cahracters should be supported!

My guess is it's in the php engine and how the page gets rendered. I think full php support for unicode characters only starts in the newest version (6.0) and that's got no set release date...php 5 probably has extensions for that sort of support...but i don't know if they were included in the last update (or maybe got dropped by accident?).

I think this is a question for rit!

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 Post Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:38 am 
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I've been wondering about this recently myself. I know that I've seen pound sterling signs, as well as e-with-dieresis, and trademark and suchlike signs. Normally I use UTF-8 for everything, and it has always Just Worked. Hmmm...

Pound Sterling: £, Copyright: ©, Yen: ¥, Trademark: ™, Zoe-with-a-dieresis: Zoë.

That worked, at least when I previewed it. For the record, I'm running Linux, with Firefox, using UTF-8 encoding.

Whoa... I just checked the topic review. SotiCoto's original post is comprehensible there. He just put standard accents over all the vowels. he Pound Sterling sign displayed correctly, too. This is definitely a problem for Rit.

EDIT: Whoa again... My post looked fine when I typed it, and when I reviewed it. But now that it's posted, it's corrupted. Something has changed the characters that I wrote. They're wrong even in the edit text box.

--tll

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 Post Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:07 am 
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Well, yes. Writing and previewing take place in your browser.

Viewing the page and editing require that the page be loaded from the server.

The problem is the server's support for unicode...I'm fairly certain of it.

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 Post Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:51 pm 
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Ah, I didn't realize that the previewing was a browser function. Makes sense, then.

Oh well, a job for rit.

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 Post Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:15 am 
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£

Did that work?


No it didn't!

Cool :p

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 Post Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:28 am 
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We will make sure rit hears about this.

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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:12 pm 
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Sorry to necropost, but may I inquire as to whether any progress has been made on this front?

Since I'm a nosy person (who also happens to know a thing or two about forum software and encoding issues), I can tell you that this problem has its origins in the phpBB3 upgrade, and is actually not uncommon. The data seems to be correct to the byte as it's stored (i.e. as UTF-8), but when read, it seems to be interpreted as Latin-1 (or at least that's the way I see the problem; I don't happen to have spare phpBB installs just lying around to diagnose this sort of thing! :bert: ). I've found "solutions" to this problem online, but they seem a little asinine, to tell the truth (most of them involve converting everything in the database or having the phpBB2 install still around so you can reconvert, which doesn't seem like the right way to go about it when you can probably just change certain settings here and there).

Not to press the issue, of course; rushing headfirst into the problem will absolutely make this particular one worse (several levels of mojibake'ifying is a no-go). I'm just concerned because I have a vested interest in curvy punctuation ("''" -> “‘’”) and foreign languages (hai, sou desu -> はい、そうです).

May you and yours have a pleasant evening. Or morning or afternoon or night as the case may be.

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 Post Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:35 pm 
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Not really necroing, considering that it's still an issue. It would be nice to have this issue resolved, particularly since I'm ramping up to run a Werewolves-style game in feudal Japan, and it would be nice to be able to write stuff like Hōjō or 鬼... but as you can see, I can't.

One possibility: The release notes for phpBB 3.0.5 include this:
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[Fix] Set connection encoding for MySQL versions 4.1.0 to 4.1.2. This may fix some conversion issues with special characters. (Bug #41805)

Don't know if you're running MySQL or what version, but it's worth a look. It may turn out that a simple board update is all that's needed.

EDIT: The corresponding bug ticket seems to indicate that this might be the problem. The characters store correctly into the database, but get mangled when it reads them out to display them. This is consistent with what we experience here: special characters look fine in the preview (since the post has not yet been stored in the database), but when you submit and then view the post, it looks mangled. The good news is that if this is the correct diagnosis, it means that the correct characters are in the database, and once the update is applied, old posts with mangled characters will start showing up correctly.

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 Post Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:04 pm 
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Ya we're not running MySQL 4 :)

I'm back on looking at a bunch of stuff, and will see if I can't figure this out.

I suspect the reason however is simpler... PHP has no proper support for unicode. Thus, typically there are hacks and such which, for interoperability with Sluggy's aging codebase may be disabled.
I am a big fan of making sure things "just work". I'll follow up.

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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:10 am 
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Awesome! It's fixed now! Just for our general edification, what did you do, rit?

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